Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neha Yadav (activist)
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No indication of notability. Lack of in-depth coverages. Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Bapinghosh (talk) 08:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Strong delete just being a spokesperson of a political party does not give a free pass to notability. There is no evidence of satisfying WP:NPOL and almost all the sources are passing mentions and a few written by the subject. There is no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. To me this looks like a case of undisclosed paid editing, the author first hijacked the redirect at Neha Yadav and after their edits were reverted they posted this article. GSS 💬 08:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Not the WP:NPOL but it passes WP:GNG. A complete story by Caravan Magazine [1] on her. Another story in Punjab Kesari on life threatening attack [2]. One more complete story on her by [[Amar Ujala] [3]. There are many emerging politicians who don't qualify WP:NPOL but because of their work, they are covered and included. Hindi edition of The Print has also covered her [4]. First I didn't even want to create this page because I thought it's WP:1E but there is coverage that is further than the Amit Shah incident. Young leading female voices of dissent should be on Wikipedia and that's why I want to ensure this article remains. There are other good coverages also, but the above sources are enough. Sonofstar (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Sonofstar (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- The first source you provided above is an interview (the second paragraph of the source reads In an interview in Delhi, Sagar, a staff writer at The Caravan, spoke to Neha Yadav), which is not a RS for a contentious fact according to WP:BLP policy and rest of them are not about her independently, they are about the same non-notable incident she was involved in so there is nothing that satisfy WP:GNG. GSS 💬 09:12, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per convincing source analysis by GSS. Fails GNG and NPOL.4meter4 (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- 4meter4 This is surely not WP:NPOL but it passes WP:GNG and easily WP:BASIC. You should see similar AFD I nom [5]. Punjab Kesari can work for WP:BASIC smoothly. But, Amar Ujala story and The Print story are complete coverages about her in detail. There is perspective of both the sides. Journalists are talking about what she is saying and what the college administration is saying. It is not a one-sided story and is independently written. Coverages can be of non-notable events. There is a further follow up story at The Quint [6] that has independently analyzed the situation. There is also more written about this at Scroll [7]. I found one more coverage that is further talking about her relationship with the party and what happened next [8]. She has been covered and written about by journalists for a long time and in detail, right from the time she showed the black flag to Amit Shah, which is a notable incident considering how much controversy and media it attracted. Even if you think GNG is not achieved, WP:BASIC is achieved for sure. Sonofstar (talk) 04:10, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sonofstar, as I pointed out above, almost all the sources you are providing are linked to the same non-notable event (including these new sources) and if you cite thousands of such sources they will be counted as one and reference bombing not going to help with notability. She was only in the news for showing a black flag to Amit Shah which is not at all a notable event. In India such incidents happen on regular basis so there is no big deal with it. GSS 💬 05:45, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @GSS, Its not just about the Amit Shah incident. There are multiple incidents also if you check the sources properly which is helping for WP:Basic Smoothly. Also, Even for Amit Shah Incident, it has coverage of 2018 as well as in 2019. I guess, it is because that might be one of the major events for her as she was imprisoned for 2 months and the media might be trying to connect old dots. Calling the event nonnotable can't be fair entirel, its aa part of gang rape event. You need to agree with me that this event happens during a notable event Hathras Gang Rape, so practically this is not possible that this event can become bigger than Hathras event itself where strong people like Amit Shah is involved. You should also check [9] this which is not related to Amit Shah Event at all, so WP:Basic is crystal clear. (talk) 06:15, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea how many times I have to repeat so let me repeat one more time and for the last time, none of those sources discussing the subject independently. Almost all the sources are of those minor event(s) she was involved in and most of the sources are just passing mentions such as the BBC piece you provided above. By the way, can you explain what was her role in the Hathras Gang Rape? how she was involved in that case? and how rest of the so events are independently notable? such as showing a black flag to Amit Shah? GSS 💬 07:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- GSS Let's talk one by one as perWP:BASIC we don't need indepth coverage. So Are you counting BBC news for it? Sonofstar (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sonofstar At this point, you are persisting in WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT behavior. Please stop a fruitless back and forth. Your failure to seriously consider and address the concerns raised by GSS with a cogent counter argument, and your dogged persistence in ignoring them speaks volumes in favor of the accuracy and truth of GSS's analysis. 4meter4 (talk) 18:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @4meter4 Do me a favor, please close this afd as delete. Sonofstar (talk) 03:21, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sonofstar At this point, you are persisting in WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT behavior. Please stop a fruitless back and forth. Your failure to seriously consider and address the concerns raised by GSS with a cogent counter argument, and your dogged persistence in ignoring them speaks volumes in favor of the accuracy and truth of GSS's analysis. 4meter4 (talk) 18:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- GSS Let's talk one by one as perWP:BASIC we don't need indepth coverage. So Are you counting BBC news for it? Sonofstar (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea how many times I have to repeat so let me repeat one more time and for the last time, none of those sources discussing the subject independently. Almost all the sources are of those minor event(s) she was involved in and most of the sources are just passing mentions such as the BBC piece you provided above. By the way, can you explain what was her role in the Hathras Gang Rape? how she was involved in that case? and how rest of the so events are independently notable? such as showing a black flag to Amit Shah? GSS 💬 07:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @GSS, Its not just about the Amit Shah incident. There are multiple incidents also if you check the sources properly which is helping for WP:Basic Smoothly. Also, Even for Amit Shah Incident, it has coverage of 2018 as well as in 2019. I guess, it is because that might be one of the major events for her as she was imprisoned for 2 months and the media might be trying to connect old dots. Calling the event nonnotable can't be fair entirel, its aa part of gang rape event. You need to agree with me that this event happens during a notable event Hathras Gang Rape, so practically this is not possible that this event can become bigger than Hathras event itself where strong people like Amit Shah is involved. You should also check [9] this which is not related to Amit Shah Event at all, so WP:Basic is crystal clear. (talk) 06:15, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sonofstar, as I pointed out above, almost all the sources you are providing are linked to the same non-notable event (including these new sources) and if you cite thousands of such sources they will be counted as one and reference bombing not going to help with notability. She was only in the news for showing a black flag to Amit Shah which is not at all a notable event. In India such incidents happen on regular basis so there is no big deal with it. GSS 💬 05:45, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete fails NPOL nothing here to warrant a standalone page on Wikipedia. --- FitIndia Talk Admin on Commons 08:06, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Fitindia I am curious, Do you think it is failing WP:GNG & WP:BASIC also ? Sonofstar (talk) 08:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG. desmay (talk) 15:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Not qualifying for WP:NPOL. Too soon maybe. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 19:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails to pass WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:26, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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