Our Hotwives

Mark; We've just returned from our twice weekly swimming session, trying to stay fit after flying a desk all week. I am writing my tome but I thought I'd quickly answer 54...'s question.
Sorry for the confusion 54, I make the assumption you are from over the pond, please correct me if I am wrong.

Neve is our wonderful 4 year old granddaughter, her mother is (our dil) Nuala. Neve will be leaving pre school and going to Primary school (big school as she puts it). The hours will be longer thus in order, in my mind, to prevent the devil finding work for idle hands, Nuala should get a job to focus her attentions. Liz my other dil, also has a 4 year old daughter, similarly going up to the next school, and again my thoughts are to reduce temptation, she should likewise gain useful employment.

Liz is a leader (and manipulator), if Liz does something Nuala will invariably follow suit. An English colloqueal term of sarcasm, if someone claims to be lead astray, hence 'if Liz stuck her head under a bus, would you really do the same???' In other word have you no mind of your own!!
So if I can recruit Liz, then suddenly Nuala will think it's a good idea to get a job. I hope that's clearer.

Sorry for the long winded explanation of strange English terminology. I have been accused by Dawn of being old fashioned in my views of the girls extra curricular activities and they are adults with all that entails. But I am the worrier, and Dawn clearly the care free, risk taker. Apparently I have to 'lighten up'.

Dawn/Mark, I would have loved to see the look on Nuala face when Richard turned her down, just can not wait until Dawn tells Nuala Richard prefers older woman, emotional more stable, overall better time, less baggage

Mark as you have added a number of new "safety" discreet cameras in the house, will you add one to fun hub area, "just for safety"

As for Nuala, at her age she think she know it all, if Dawn can keep up a nutrial dialog Dawn may be able too keep Nuala NRE under control, the same applies to your sons, with just one FWB it would be too easy to build an emotional connection, not sure what you can do about that at this time, as you do not want to come out to the boys, maybe ask Nuala is the boys already now the full truth already?

Thanks for the explanations Mark. Hope you are getting some relaxation time in the midst of you big project. Worrier or not, I think you bring up a fair point - you and Dawn have a long relationship built on mutual trust and respect. DILs are just starting out so perhaps pulling back a bit and finding "gainful employment" (?) maybe the right move for now. Perhaps you guys need to recruit Liz to your cause.

Thanks, Mark.

54321

Many thanks for all the updates Mark and Dawn. I love Dawn’s descriptions especially about her clothes and underwear.

To help 54321 and others here is the U.K. education system
Early years: Non-compulsory education for children from birth to age five
Primary education: Compulsory education for children from age five to age 11
sometimes split into Infants (5 to 7) and Junior (7 to 11)
Secondary education: Compulsory education for children from age 11 to age 16
Further education (FE): Education for people above the age of 16

Could not have put it better. In fact, I didn’t. Haha
Thank you BM

Mark Sunday - The tub has heated up overnight, so a quick dip before lunch. It’s quite chilly and has been raining overnight, so I took a jacket and walked across the lawn on little ‘pixie’ like stepping stones and lifted off the lid. So warm.
OK I was wrong, the tub was a good idea. We christened it, relaxed for about 30 minutes. A bottle of wine to celebrate the ok on the wall replacement, another christening. I asked if Roger’s mum would allow him to come and build my wall. Not funny. She said 35 would go into 50, a lot over the build. Maths joke. And he will have to make regular visits to check his work, and she's going to see if he can start my project earlier, as cover. I'm all for that!!
Her birthday, big 50, on 4th. Party here. Not particularly elegant here with builders fencing across the front.

We discussed the dil situation at length, frankly I’m getting past it all now, they do what they do. Dawn did say she wished we’d started sooner, though I felt she should have kept her council about us, but too late. Just a case of support and guidance, if they’ll listen of course. Liz listen?? Roger did the decent thing where Nuala was concerned, Dawn is delighted at being the ‘special one’ even though Roger didn’t know he could be overheard. I just don’t want her or I to be diminished in front of the boys.

After Shelleys situation with her daughter, I spoke to the dils with the same problem 'otherwise they'd work' and made enquiries in the office, there is a problem with child care in the workplace, mainly cost and availability. I’m been having problems recruiting women in certain areas of the firm because of it. I’ve discussed this with neighbouring company MD’s, 5 of the 6 companies in our business estate, and it’s the same story. I have suggested, I have as part of my building a brick built storage unit about the size of a large scout hut which isn't being used? Dawn is looking into the legals, and my secretary is investigating staffing requirements. The other guys from the other companies are happy to get involved financially as well, considering setting it all up as it's own company. It would make employment easier and more desirable for everyone, the companies could subsidised the facility and offer to staff as perks and incentives. Common sense really, and tax deductible. No ones an angel - but everyone wins. I told Dawn jobs could be found for the 2 dils, but I suspect Liz would want to start as MD.

I have asked Dawn to be absent on Thursday evening so that Michelle and I can try out the tub. I showed her the cameras and she got quite excited. She would be in the study upstairs, no standing in the cold for her. It may sound strange but, neither Dawn nor I want to be in the same room as an observer when the other is performing. Yet we have no problem with Ray and Tony. I was to tell Michelle that Dawn was due home from London at midnight, so - tub, shag and back to her house for dessert.

Dawn is seeing Kit on Friday for dinner and probably overnight, and Philip has suggested month end meet overnight. Dawn declined as she arranged to see Remi after the meeting. Doesn't want to spoil her appetite, or encourage Philip back into the fold.
Lesley phones Dawn quite often with updates and girly chats. As expected she did mention that Frank the Perv was overheard gleefully telling Philip that he caught Dawn without knickers, mentioned her shaved pussy and was sure he was ‘in’ with her. Dawn admitted to Lesley, yes it’s true, she doesn’t wear knickers, and yes, she did flash him deliberately purely for devilment, and no he's not 'in'. Lesley said she’d give both a try and give Richard a double surprise.
So all is well there. There'll be more to tell at the weekend.

Yet we have no problem with Ray and Tony

Because neither of you feel like a 'third wheel'?

54321

Mark - providing child care as part of staff incentives is a brilliant idea !
When you mentioned MDs I wondered if doctors offices were close to yours but as I read further I think it is managing director?
I think Dawn is overdue for a “Dr” Remi treatment?

I’m guessing that once you have entertained Michelle in the hot tub that Dawn will want to entertain Kit or Roger in the hot tub? Will you also set up the playroom for some light BDSM play between you and Michelle? Michelle seemed to enjoyed last time. Have you set up outdoor heaters around the hot tub, they make a big difference at night time?

Will Roger be around next Saturday with the fence being built? If so, I would expect that Naula would make an appearance to seduce Roger, which means that Dawn would need to get back early from an overnighter with Kit.

How is Cheryl doing? Has Cheryl been around since you kick the scrumbag out of their house?

HT are great just wait to it is dead winter, 0c outside 38c in the tub, the best thing is the grandkids in the HT with you

Could Dawn not just watch the high light tape Thursday, as you have the house covered, she could spend the night out with Richard doing mathematics, is it not a bit presumptive of Dawn to think she is the “special one” (football joke)

You thinking in Child care is really smart, hard to pull off, there are so many closing due to costs, but you have control over the main cost, building

Mark was Dawns birthing party last night or next week, how did it go, lots of fun

Mark; Well, the last week or so has been good and bad.
Bad; as after Michelle’s return from holiday, she invited me to lunch to tell me her husband and her are going to make another go of it. She has finished with the boyfriend of around 8 years (husband’s best friend, he is still unaware of his identity) and now me. So after lunch we had a tearful (her) parting; ending with a final shag in the front of my car. After which she said, maybe lunch could be repeated like this, after all it is business. Maybe not so bad?

Bad; because the efforts of the other businessmen and me trying to set this childcare unit up; deciding whether it’s a charity, a trust or whatever? To be thwarted by the Council jobsworths? Give me strength!!
For every positive we give, they have more negatives. The hoops we have to jump through… it's only made us more determined than ever!! Bastards!
Some good news, one of my collaborators in this venture, who is gay, has the most fantastic pa, who I might say, he has told me she had indicated a similar view of yours truly. I hope it’s not a case of One door closes and another slams firmly in your face. Softly, softly…

The good; The contract that came in; went out, month end on time and without a hitch - now breathe!!

Dawn and Kit went to heir haunt in the New Forest on Friday night, obviously going to give her something for her birthday. Can’t think what? That seems to be blossoming. I’m sure she will fill you (and I) in later. She arrived back Saturday morning, looking the worse for wear, to help out with the party prep.

Saturday; we had a terrific party at the house for Dawn’s 50th (4th Nov). Loads of people, around 35. She wore tight tan suede trousers and an almost see through tan blouse. God, she looked so good and seems in a good place. I did notice several people check her tits out under the guise of dancing. I think she liked that.
Several of the girls from her office were there, after a few drinks and a rather good snog, her secretary showed me the wonderful tattoo on her right boob, it felt pretty good too.
Presents came in the post thick and fast, flowers everywhere. Dawn told me some of them were from James, Philip, Coral and even Will. A case of wine from Marcus and a small package from Remi (which I’ll investigate later). Bottles from grateful clients - all good.

Roger was there (as our builder and new bff as he’s done a great job on the tub, and starting on my wall. Did I ever mention my wall??? Haha). He followed Dawn round like a little dog, I think someone’s got it bad, although Nuala seemed to be always around him. Tony (Rays husband) discretely bonked Cheryl in a spare bedroom, while blissfully unaware, Dave, her husband, shook off his embarrassment of recent events and danced the night away. (obviously Cheryl’s mojo’s back).
The kids had a great time, the boys got pissed. Liz had a close call with Tony (I gently warned him off), though she seemed pretty keen to get involved and a little annoyed with me. I think Tony’s got a thing for pale Gingers (Cheryl/Liz). Nuala gave me a great big hug, told me I was the best fil in the world (she’s only got one).

Dawn danced and mingled all night with just about everyone, knowing she was sleeping with Ray, Tony and I later. Ray looked amazing, those lovely brown boobs in an almost open blouse, I noticed Nuala drop a couple of buttons on her dress to compete (and perhaps impress Roger) and us guys, we just benefitted for once. Ah, The Demon Drink??

They all finally cleared off around 3. Ray insisted Tony have a shower before he joined us in bed. He chuckled, confided, Liz was a great kisser, had terrific tits and a clean shaven and very, very wet pussy. A little dig at me as I was a bit taken aback, Dawn thought it hilarious, said a sly fuck wouldn’t have hurt. Hmm not sure I agree.

Dawn had a tipsy 3some with her two favourite people, while I went down for a brandy, came back up with the bottle and glasses to ooh’s and ahh’s and waited my turn.

All in all, a successful event.

Happy birthday, Dawn! Welcome to the club!

Great update ocean! You two are living the life!

Happy birthday Dawn.

Sorry to hear that Michelle is basically off the market now. Tony was a busy boy at Dawn’s party. Would Cheryl only be interested in Dawn or would she be happy to play with both of you? Dawn’s secretary seems to be friendly with you, any opportunity there or is it too close to home for Dawn’s liking? Tony basically validated that Liz is happy to play even with her husband, MIL and FIL are in the house.

I get the feeling that Nuala loves teasing Mark in a sexual way and knowing both are in an open relationship with their respective partners but Mark is trying downplay everything, e.g. Nuala has fun turning up the heat while Mark is trying to turn down the heat.

Happy belated birthday, Dawn.

Late

A belated happy birthday Dawn .

Many thanks Mark for the wonderful update of a sexy soirée last Saturday.

Just a question, was the hot tub utilised and if so by whom?

Dawn Happy birthday, remember, Roger will keep you young, so that make you 35 Marcus has not been around for a while, nice wine, sounds like you own him a date, in fact you have a number of lose ends to follow up on, Cheryl needs a girls nigh out

Your going to be a busy girl over the next few weeks

More important how is the hot tub and the great Wall of China working out, a man needs a project, have the DIL and Grandkids been in the fun tub yet

Mark stick it to the council, apparently we have a business friendly government LOL

Thinking about Liz and Tony, Tony would be a safe pair of hands, he knows how the game is played and would water down any power Liz other WFB have over her, if Liz was you daughter it would be a NO, what’s does Dawn /Ray think about Tony and Liz, older men, younger woman do work well together, in the end of the day you can not stop Liz playing

As you yourself, give PA next door is try nothing to lose, what age is she? Dawns secularly, that down to Dawn, could be to close to home

A belated best wishes on your birthday Dawn.
Sorry about Michelle Mark, but hopefully a new "door" will open soon ?
Best of luck in your fight with the Council on doing the right thing (childcare) for employees.

Wow! A Happy Birthday and 'the Bumps' too!

54321

Dawn; Well, another year older, and deeper in life. I’m sorry it’s been a while but things happen and big thank you for your kind wishes. I must admit to enjoying writing up these things, puts things in perspective.

Poor old Mark got the sack from Michelle. Don’t feel so bad for him, she wants to make a go of her marriage, but also wants fortnightly dirty, sorry, business lunches with Mark, cake and eat it comes to mind! And he has someone else on the horizon, he hasn’t told me who yet, so he’s happy.

I would have loved Kit to be at my party, maybe Ray and I could have… that would make him happy, Mark thought it impolitic, whatever that means. Anyway I spent a lovely evening having dinner with Kit on Friday. He wished me a happy birthday bought a little token present, and cemented our relationship in our New Forest hotel room, such a beautiful place. He’s discussing a broader relationship with his wife, he's suspicious she’s seems way ahead of him, doesn’t know who. Men and their ego. We laughed about it late after our second session, collapsing on my back, I suggest she could be doing the same. He laughed. Liked the idea.

I had a lovely birthday bash, lots of friends attended, lots of shenanigans, some good, some naughty. Mark had put a lot of work into it to make it a huge success. Lots of booze, boobs and dirty dancing. Mark invited Roger, who came on his own, much to Nuala’s delight who monopolised him for most of the evening, I was relieved to be able to tell him due to Nuala I had to be scarce. Cheryl was looking very sexy in gold sparkly low dress, lots of creamy white boob on show, with her miserable husband who just drank. Ray was just as beautiful as ever in a goldy scoop front silk blouse and a very short skirt, lots to see and hold.
My 2 boys were pissed and had a good time, as did both Liz and Nuala, both pretty tiddly, I was a little worried Nuala would do something silly in front of others with Roger, but she didn’t. Liz had a good time, very good as I found out later, better than I thought. Apparently there were quite a few people having indiscretions, plenty of drink and revelry will do that I suppose. Mark hadn’t switched the tub lights on so no-one used it. My evening was best behaviour, with just a few gropes.

Kit and Philip (who got upset he wasn’t invited) sent lovely presents and flowers, as did Coral and would you believe Will. A dozen bottles of wine from Remi. Must follow up there.

After everyone left around 2.30, Ray and I stretched Tony out on the bed; I gave him a great blowjob while Ray straddled his chest and rubbed her pussy in his face. Ray did the same to me later. Mark went downstairs, returned with a bottle of his favourite brandy and 4 glasses. Ray launched on him, fucked him mercilessly, he said no-one kisses like Ray and no-one does. And so it was, 3somes plus a spectator and all change till we drifted off around 4ish.

We surfaced around 10, Mark made scrambled eggs and bacon with a lot of coffee. At Tony’s suggestion we made more coffee and trooped out to the tub, no one had used it last night, stripped off our robes and jumped in as Nature intended. Ray sat astride me, her arms round my neck rubbing those lovely boobs against mine, kissed me and wished me happy birthday; well, one hand on her boob and sly fingers playing beneath the water. The guys just continued talking as if nothing was out of the ordinary, which it wasn't.
We sat in the warm water, conversations continued, revelations from last night were uncovered…. Mark admitted viewing my secretary’s tattoo over her pussy and received a blowjob and swallow in the utility room, before they could get down to it they were interrupted, causing her to make a quick a quick exit returning to her husband in the lounge bar.

Then the big one; Tony, the dirty dog had lured Cheryl, who made no resistance whatsoever, upstairs to the spare room and fucked her brains out, she returned the compliment with gusto, before both returned to the party. He told Ray who thought it wonderful, her dark skin, Cheryl's white skin, err, details please??

Then, a little sheepishly, Tony admitted that he had, although reluctantly and partially driven by the other, done the same with Liz. He apologised to Mark, but he wanted it out from him in case it leaked out. Not the dil I expected.
Nevertheless, Mark went very quiet. I was waiting for the bang! He said, ah well it's done, now how to deal with it? I said later. He did mention he thought Tony’s got a fixation with ginger pussys, not a nice term. But we did demand all the smutty details of both, it turns out that Liz is quite the performer.
Everyone agreed that Cheryl’s beta husband was probably in the closet, neither of them seemed happy so just a matter of time. I said I was going to have a chat with her, she must be aware, she has a very healthy sex drive, just not with him and so not happy.

Time for a quick lunch before Ray and Tony headed back. Hot showers in my room with Ray, the boys in the spare room. More revelations… Ray asked if I’d seen Remi? I said not for 2 or 3 weeks. Well, it turned out old hot arsed Ray had been seeing Kerry, his partner in crime, and Marcus at the same time, get this, once a week and had some heavy workouts (I'm jealous). Did I fancy both of us catching up with the Richmond guys? And, she has an invite to a ‘Black Club’ party in south London later in November? Yup. OK on both for me!

When they’d left, we had the chat as I wasn’t looking forward to. Liz. But he was philosophical about it, no one got hurt, probably no one else knew and definitely a one off with Tony. Let sleeping dogs lie! Phew. We both thought it would have been Nuala.

Early night night, I told Mark about my night with Kit in great detail and he told me about my secretary, hmm, I'll check that out. I gave him a hand ob to say thank you.

Thanks for the update with all the exqusite details Dawn. A visit to Remi is overdue eh?

Dawn / Mark, the DIls are grower woman, Liz has now had Tony, no damage done, and you be been with Tony, so as you say to Tony has had DIL and MIL, daughter and mother, that’s different, as long as Liz does not know about you and Tony/Ray/you, I can not see the harm, on the positive said Tony knows how the game is played, maybe you should tell Tony to keep that run, as long as you get updates

So that brings me to Richard, you know he is into you, why not tell him to sort out Nuala, maybe she move on after she has had Richard, again as long as you know what’s is going on

Does Kit know about you and Ray, if not you can surprise him with a Hot tub session and have Ray just turn up and jump in, men are simple, do you have a problem with your secretary and Mark, she has almost been there, Mark would have done the deed if he could have and she was up for it, might as well let it run, as Mark has lost Michell, poor boy, just tell her you know and your cool with it, just keep it out of work

Another wonderful update Dawn. Thanks for all the delicious details.

I’m intrigued how Dawn is going to find out about her secretary’s tattoo. Perhaps a chance encounter after a ‘working lunch’?

Any chance that Dawn and Cheryl will get back together?