Honey Lemon Soda Episode 4 Discussion

I think she was talking to a friend of hers up the stairs before parting with her as she heads off to get her phone. It did seem hard to tell who she was talking to. Would be funny if she just abandoned her phone pretending it isn't hers anymore out of embarrassment though but i dont think that's it lol


Sometimes frustrating but I sympathize with her anyway and try to empathize even if it's beyond anything I'd do.


What they call mountains just seems to be hills since they are on a very large mountain I assume. They usually are just gravel paved but on flatter land they can be only dirt. At the Y fork in the path the right-hand path taken was not so covered in gravel then becomes just dirt trail and the trail opened up so less of a clear trail actually there. But still they clearly on a trail and couldn't be that lost unless there was a lot of other side trails along the way. It was overdramatic but it also doesn't seem entirely unrealistic to think if they didn't know their way around they would worry missing the bus so it would be technically lost, then once it's described as being "lost" panic results from group dynamics and build it up to be more an issue than it really is.

Ok, guys, I've never went mountain hiking before, so please correct me if I'm wrong about this:

Aren't the hiking tracks always kind of marked on the ground? It's usually paved from what I know. It is shown paved under their feet in the anime.
So basically,Weren't they going to get to their starting point if they just went back following the same tracks they came through?
The whole idea of being "lost" whilst walking on a marked & paved tracks kind of doesn't work for me.

I don't know. Let me know what you guys think.

Why is his tall friend trying to keep them apart? Does he have feelings for Uka now? I'm a little unclear on this part.
And that Classmate's apology sounded not only slow, but not very sincere. Or maybe she just realized it was all futile anyway. She should have gotten into a butt load of trouble for that little stunt. Oh well, envy isn't called a Green-eyed Monster for no reason.

Ishimori is getting kinda annoying with her wild mood swings

How many times is Ishimori going to cry or tear up in each episode, girl suck it up a little

@sarybelle you really didnt understand her character in the slightest did you?

her mental state was highly damaged by the bullying in middle school. she is insecure beyond anything because of that.
i think she is portrayed kinda realistic and in character all the time. she is believable for me.

Oh my goodness. I didn't think I would dislike a protagonist this season more than Miyo from My Happy Marriage, yet here we are...what is with these shoujo tropes where the female is so fragile and shy, while the male love interest is her knight in shining armor. It's only been four episodes, but how many times has she already been shown running away and crying lmao. Literally the last thing you're supposed to do when you're lost is separating from the group. At least she found the way out and it didn't go down that cliche route where the two main characters are alone and lost outside in the rain, but I really hope there comes a time when Kai doesn't go after her and she could take action by herself. And somehow she thinks she's "doing her best" when she doesn't even try to utter a single word out while others are sharing their yearbooks. Usually I'm sympathetic to these kinds of characters and look forward to watching their character development, but I can't with her.

New girl rival incoming. Please don't be an asshole...and get your phone back girl.

@Wrathberry84 Yes I understand her character perfectly well. That doesn’t mean that her crying 10+ times about every minuscule thing and running out of the classroom every episode isn’t annoying. Insecure fine, understandable. Four episodes of constant crying is already old

@sarybelle constant crying is a little much xD

i mean think about it: she basicaly had no interaction with anyone in middle school. besides negative ones when she got bullied.
now she suddenly is part of a group of extrovert people.

she just cant handle all the interaction currently. she only had negative interaction in middle school, so its hard for her to believe, that people are just nice to her. thats why she always gets "dark" thoughts and instantly starts to doubt herself in every situation.

give her some time. i mean we are at episode 4. of course she cant suddenly drop all the burden she packed from middle school.

You can absolutely get lost on a marked and paved trail. Yes, you're on a trail, but which trail? If you don't know where you are and which direction you're headed, you could be going down a 6-hour, expert-difficulty trail that takes you somewhere far away from the bus...

Also, yes, you could backtrack to a fork in the road, but mountain trails often have many forks; how would you know which of these forks is where you took a wrong turn?

But regardless, it's ridiculous that no one in this group tries to figure out where they are and decide what to do, other than start blaming Ishimori. No one else has a map, and no one asks to take a look at Ishimori's map?

Not to mention no one brought an umbrella or a raincoat, when they knew they were going mountain hiking... Now that I mention it, why are they even in their school uniforms? Ishimori's the only one in gym clothes. Aren't they going to get sweaty?

I laughed out loud when there was that one girl who burst into tears, literally crying, "I wanna go home! Mommyyy!" It was like a comedy bit. Are they high-school students or grade-schoolers??

Besides, the whole situation is silly... Why would that jealous girl make herself lost along with the group, just to make Ishimori look bad? Does she secretly know where to go, and that's why she's not worried?

How did she pull off that sign-tampering in the first place? Did she run ahead of the group for a bit and pulled out a prepared sign and tape that she brought all the way from home to change the sign?

So many weird story moments and characters... It's hard to stop.

@Wrathberry84 Exactly we are at episode 4. The fact that this is a shojo romance means the odds of it getting a second season are pretty low. So assuming we only get 12 episodes, we’ve already spent 1/3 of the show watching her cry the whole time. Of course she’s not going to drop all the trauma from middle school that quickly, obviously not. I’m not even saying she shouldn’t have negative thoughts. But the shy, loser, crybaby trope is annoying af

@Xiao

you say you hate "miyo" too and then say: "i normaly sympathize with this kinda of characters xD your argument seems broken here xD.

you just do not seem to like the introvert shy girl. also both miyo and her are both in a very fragile mental state because of the bullying they endured.
kinda similar characters, i agree.

but miyo already had some great character development and i have that ishi will have some too in the future :)

As a manga reader, my problem with the anime is that they decided to make the characters mostly lifeless and bland. They particularly watered down Kai. I'm hoping the anime will pick up over the next few episodes.